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	<title>Comments on: Python 3.0: Chaos Ensues</title>
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	<description>Just a guy, into 3D.</description>
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		<title>By: am</title>
		<link>http://www.geneome.com/2008/12/04/python-30-chaos-ensues/comment-page-1/#comment-9673</link>
		<dc:creator>am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m for nr 4. but I do realize it&#039;s not gonna happen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m for nr 4. but I do realize it&#8217;s not gonna happen</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis C</title>
		<link>http://www.geneome.com/2008/12/04/python-30-chaos-ensues/comment-page-1/#comment-9663</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>surely python could use an &quot;engine&quot; parameter at the start of scripts to determine the versioning its a simple hack really but would be great for backwards compatibility full stop, I realise the language needs updating but people should be given choice to change rather than forced Tienanmen square style with the students obviously replaced with scripts not dead programmers lol also this would allow for the revival of older scripts without sacrificing more than a few instructions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely python could use an &#8220;engine&#8221; parameter at the start of scripts to determine the versioning its a simple hack really but would be great for backwards compatibility full stop, I realise the language needs updating but people should be given choice to change rather than forced Tienanmen square style with the students obviously replaced with scripts not dead programmers lol also this would allow for the revival of older scripts without sacrificing more than a few instructions</p>
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		<title>By: geneome</title>
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		<dc:creator>geneome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! Didn&#039;t catch the conversion script. I think it will be a big deal for HOM to get to 3.0 since they&#039;ll need to mess with it&#039;s internal workings I gather (mainly hou). It&#039;s still at 2.5.2 after all, so I&#039;m very curious about what direction they&#039;ll head. I doubt they&#039;ll answer that question on the forums unless they already have it nailed down. Maybe someone (me?) will have the wherewithal to ask :). I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if they had an extra build at some point (like the VC7 and VC8 32-bit flavors).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! Didn&#8217;t catch the conversion script. I think it will be a big deal for HOM to get to 3.0 since they&#8217;ll need to mess with it&#8217;s internal workings I gather (mainly hou). It&#8217;s still at 2.5.2 after all, so I&#8217;m very curious about what direction they&#8217;ll head. I doubt they&#8217;ll answer that question on the forums unless they already have it nailed down. Maybe someone (me?) will have the wherewithal to ask <img src='http://www.geneome.com/cms/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they had an extra build at some point (like the VC7 and VC8 32-bit flavors).</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>according to the http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html there is a &quot;2to3&quot; conversion/update script.  that&#039;s cool.. does anybody know if there is a &quot;0to3&quot; or &quot;0to2&quot; script? something that would essentially do the work for me?  ;o)

also, i read off of http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/python_3point0_release/ that 3.0 is about 10% slower.

here&#039;s a thought, along my adventure getting Nvidia&#039;s gelato to work with blender i learned that multiple versions of python could be installed at the same time.  i wonder if this would be the case with python 3.0?  if so, could there still be &quot;backwards compatibility&quot; by having the scripts that don&#039;t work in 3.0 use an older python install?

and finally, python seems to be very closely integrated inside Houdini... &quot;hython&quot; etc.  so, i&#039;m curious, what will it take for sesi to move to 3.0?

peace &amp; 42</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to the <a href="http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html" rel="nofollow">http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html</a> there is a &#8220;2to3&#8243; conversion/update script.  that&#8217;s cool.. does anybody know if there is a &#8220;0to3&#8243; or &#8220;0to2&#8243; script? something that would essentially do the work for me?  ;o)</p>
<p>also, i read off of <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/python_3point0_release/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/python_3point0_release/</a> that 3.0 is about 10% slower.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s a thought, along my adventure getting Nvidia&#8217;s gelato to work with blender i learned that multiple versions of python could be installed at the same time.  i wonder if this would be the case with python 3.0?  if so, could there still be &#8220;backwards compatibility&#8221; by having the scripts that don&#8217;t work in 3.0 use an older python install?</p>
<p>and finally, python seems to be very closely integrated inside Houdini&#8230; &#8220;hython&#8221; etc.  so, i&#8217;m curious, what will it take for sesi to move to 3.0?</p>
<p>peace &amp; 42</p>
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		<title>By: Dread Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.geneome.com/2008/12/04/python-30-chaos-ensues/comment-page-1/#comment-8557</link>
		<dc:creator>Dread Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 ftw!</description>
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